In this episode I interview Holly and Dan Verssen, the owners of DVG Games. Not only are they the owners but they are married  (to each other of course). The main focus of the interview is what it’s like to own a company together and how to do that and be happily married at the same time. Plus they raised a family while doing this.

It’s a great story about how to start and run a business from the ground up and then balance life, marriage, parenting , and stress. We discuss some business thoughts they have as well as some game design and play testing thoughts.

You can visit them at They make great games many of them solitaire.

We also mentioned a few gaming sites: